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与各位网友讨论《评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》》

by tonny.xu on Jan.02, 2005, under General

2004-02-05 20:51:52 新浪网友 发表评论　IP:221.204.22.*

描写的情况很贴近国企。但是，一个企业要在竞争中立于不败之地，产品的质量、性能、花色品种以及宣传、推广、企划，其中每一个部门中没有艺专一行的工程师行吗？年轻人们:"风物长亦放眼量，老工程师的哀叹，是对旧体制的无奈。汹涌澎湃的人类进步潮流，很快就会冲垮那些愚人们构筑的篱笆。

我和这位网友有一样的感觉。

2004-02-06 11:22:09 网友：mythonion 发表评论　IP:61.183.21.*

这位老工程师????不如说钻营大师!!他说的是当前国企的现状,但是只有痴心技术的工匠才是企业真正的脊梁!中国历来没有重视"匠人"的传统,这就是为什么中国在近一千年来从领先到落后欧美的一个重要原因,当然按老油条说得,能够享受荣华富贵,但是~~~~~
让我们联合起来,扒了这老东西的牙,看他还胡诌些什么!!!

虽有粗言，却不失率性，真性情也。

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2005-01-01 10:16 PM 海阔天空

从这篇文章看来，要做好技术，为自己的个人发展和前途，我想当然是很好的建议和忠告，但是如果从社会的进步和国家的发展来看，没有人去认真的搞技术，没有人去研究，都去争夺名和利，我想，非社会、国家之福啊！

兄台所言极是～

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2005-01-01 2:23 PM junglezen

原文比评论更有说服力，其他就不多说了，光看评论里?如果国内的企业没有适合的土壤，为什么不去外企那？如果国内的气氛不好，为什么不去国外那？?就让人窝一肚子火。

为什么让你窝着火了？触动了你敏感的神经了？如果你认为这和是否爱国有关系，那么我可以肯定的告诉你，我的爱国热情不会输于你，如果是别有隐情，为何不放开手脚，和我讨论一下呢？

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2005-01-01 11:25 AM zhangxu421
原文说得比较中肯
评论有些吹毛求疵,缺乏例证,没有中心,不明白评论中到底支持什么样的观点

不明白这位兄台所指中心为何物，本来这就是一个有10个终告的东西，难道还能抽出一个中心思想？原文中肯，所以我能同意60％，所以我愿意来写这篇文字，不知道你要是什么样的观点？

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-30 8:02 PM 达到
对我来说，玩的开心才是最重要的，重要的不是结果，而是过程"
瞧这个sb！！跟楼主一样的货色，小学还没毕业吧！！

辛苦的讨论换来SB二字！You can go to hell.

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-30 2:26 PM gouki
呵呵 关键看你自己对成功对快乐的定义了，说?评注者还是个孩子?大约都是传统成功定义的拥护者，的确，在在国内，你需要很务实，才能获得所谓的社会承认的成功。

对我来说，玩的开心才是最重要的，重要的不是结果，而是过程，我们每个人的结果不都是over么。呵呵，Follow your dreams…有什么不好？快乐才是最重要的。

8过，多读点其他学科的书我很赞赏，写程序的应该多读历史，文学和经济，开阔眼界。。。。。

本文能做成，也有你的支持：）

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-30 2:12 PM inethax
1000%1000赞同原文，原文叙述的东西要好，本来就是仁者见仁、智者见智的东西，实在不敢苟同评注者的看法

呵呵，我的看法分为十条，有合有不合，你是不能苟同哪一条啊？

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-30 11:40 AM gobeyond2000
评注者还是个孩子

我愿到老都保持这孩子心。

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-30 10:32 AM wayneZhang
follow my dreams.我也想这样.请看我的主页whyned.nease.net

看了你的主页，你的踏踏实实的作风让我非常的敬佩，相信你在未来定有一番大做为。

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-29 5:46 PM ey
非常赞同你对教育的看法

关于教育，我们还有很多很多的东西需要讨论，需要检讨，需要呼吁，期待看到你的想法。

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-29 5:43 PM SarDan
100%赞同原文。
不愧是一个35岁人过来人的心里话。很有份量。

评注者给人感觉仍然太年轻，还在Follow your dreams…
哪天梦醒了，再来看原文就晚了。

呵呵，我是很年轻，但是我一定会Follow my dream till the end of my life.

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-28 11:51 AM RANGE
赞同！！！

#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-29 12:48 PM Fuck

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#回复：评《一位老工程师的终告 几句掏心窝子的提醒》 2004-12-29 1:21 PM Cao Lao gong cheng shi.

那是什么JB老工程师啊。混到这个份儿上，还出来误导人，死了算了。

我就最烦你们这些?打劫?的了，一点技术含量都没有。

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